UrS4 / UrS6 Valuation Form… we need your sales data!

UrS4 / UrS6 Valuation Form… we need your sales data!

If you have purchased, sold or received a total loss insurance settlement for an UrS4 or UrS6 please add your transaction data to this form to help us track values. With so little sales data this information becomes critical in the event of a total loss accident valuation as well as for other insurance and market tracking purposes.

U.S. UrS4/UrS6 Historical Sales Figures By Color

U.S. UrS4/UrS6 Historical Sales Figures By Color

How rare ARE they really?

I think everyone who has ever had any real interest in these cars has heard that they were quite rare. Numerous archived automotive pieces often refer to the 250 car allocation for 1992 quickly selling out but how many were sold each year?

Back when I started S-CARS.ORG in 1998 I reached out to Audi of America in hopes of getting an idea of how many cars were sold here from year to year. At that time I was given the data Old AoA provided sales data which was closer than most I had seen elsewhere but was still not entirely accurate. We knew at best these were rough estimates and perhaps Audi would intentionally give us mixed figures as they didn’t want the competition to know how many (or how few) were really being sold.

The thing is that the Germans tend to be rather meticulous types that fuss over details. It seems almost illogical that they would NOT keep records of their sales from year to year. Without that data how would they handle future production forecasts or decide which color combinations to build? Magical 8 ball? I highly doubt it. I always suspected they knew but weren’t telling… or perhaps nobody at Audi cared to put in the effort to really look into it for those who had inquired.

It wasn’t until late 2016 that I started to see owners getting surprisingly detailed responses from Audi with production number break downs. I was highly skeptical and actually dismissed some of the data I had seen as it was clearly wrong. Case in point, it was initially reported that there were only 6 UrS6 Avants finished in Emerald over Ecru. I could easily disprove that based solely off of old S-Car Registry entries and some old KAR of MN archives and knowledge of current owners. It did however get me thinking and I decided to contact Audi with several VINs of my owns cars and a few friends cars. This time the numbers started lining up and we were at least getting consistent responses for the first time… ever?

I have no idea what may have changed at Audi that would enable them to generate the type of break-downs by color combination that I was now getting but it was an interesting trail to follow so I decided to keep working at it. I had been working with someone named Katie at Audi of America Customer Experience who was extremely helpful and seemed to be able to search the database to get some interesting results. These new numbers actually seem to have at least of shred of accuracy compared with what we’d been told in the past.
It is hard to say that it is 100% accurate but cross checking multiple VINs through several different contacts at Audi Customer Experience seemed to be generating the same results and Katie seemed to grasp what she was doing.

Sadly, as you will see below we didn’t quite finish our research. Instead of Katie’s helpful response we heard from Jamie at Audi who quickly put up a wall blocking our request for the final set of data. Naturally this makes obtaining the last bit of the data we need way more complicated than it needs to be. Audi Customer Experience could learn a lot from Katie… but unfortunately I think many of us have experienced more of the “Jamie” from them in the past. 😉

The next quest aside from filling in the missing data is to start trying to disprove the numbers. Naturally that is easiest to do with the uber rare colors such as Travertine or certain combinations of Tornado Red or Europa Blue. The more cars we can get into the S-Car Registry, the better idea we’ll have of actual survival rates. Even if you just happen to spot one “in the wild” shoot a picture of it with the license plate visible and email it to me at editor AT s-cars.org and I can likely get the data I need to at least log it in the Registry as a survivor. Thanks!

Total U.S. Sales: 297

Tornado Red Exterior Sales:
Tornado Red with Anthracite Leather: 35
Tornado Red with Ecru Leather:

Brilliant Black Exterior Sales: 92
Brilliant Black with Anthracite Leather: 38
Brilliant Black with Ecru Leather:

Pearl White Exterior Sales:
Pearl White with Anthracite Leather:
Pearl White with Ecru Leather:

Emerald Mica Exterior Sales:
Emerald Mica with Anthracite Leather:
Emerald Mica with Ecru Leather:
Emerald Mica with Ecru velour interior:

Crystal Silver Metallic Exterior Sales:
Crystal Silver Metallic with Anthracite Leather:

Cyclamen Red Mica Exterior Sales:
Cyclamen Red Mica with Travertine Leather:
Cyclamen Red Mica with Ecru Leather:

Titanium Grey Metallic Exterior with Anthracite Leather:

Total U.S. Sales: 694 (per AoA on Sept. 1, 2017)

Tornado Red Exterior Sales: 50
Tornado Red with Anthracite Leather: 39
Tornado Red with Ecru Leather: 11

Brilliant Black Exterior Sales: 178
Brilliant Black with Anthracite Leather: 112
Brilliant Black with Ecru Leather: 66

Pearl White Exterior Sales: 188
Pearl White with Anthracite Leather: 125
Pearl White with Ecru Leather: 63

Emerald Mica Exterior Sales: 232
Emerald Mica with Anthracite Leather: 82
Emerald Mica with Ecru Leather: 149
Emerald Mica with Ecru velour interior: 1

Crystal Silver Metallic Exterior Sales: 43
Crystal Silver Metallic with Anthracite Leather: 43

Cyclamen Red Mica Exterior Sales: 12
Cyclamen Red Mica with Travertine Leather: 1
Cyclamen Red Mica with Ecru Leather: 11 (estimated)

Titanium Grey Metallic Exterior with Anthracite Leather: 2

Total U.S. Sales: 399 (per AoA on Sept. 27, 2017)

Tornado Red Exterior Sales: 20
Tornado Red with Anthracite Leather: 15
Tornado Red with Ecru Leather: 5

Brilliant Black Exterior Sales: 87
Brilliant Black Exterior with Anthracite Leather: 50
Brilliant Black Exterior with Ecru Leather: 37

Crystal Silver Metallic Exterior Sales: 30
Crystal Silver Metallic with Anthracite Leather: 29
Crystal Silver Metallic with Platinum Leather: 1

Pearl White Exterior Sales: 112
Pearl White with Anthracite Leather: 77
Pearl White with Ecru Leather: 35 (one other data point says 5 cars)

Emerald Mica Metallic Exterior Sales: 144
Emerald Mica Metallic with Anthracite Leather: 35
Emerald Mica Metallic with Ecru Leather: 108
Emerald Mica Metallic with Ecru Velour: 1

Europa Blue Mica with Ecru Leather: 6

Total U.S. Sales: 930 (includes 95 and 95.5) (per AoA on Sept. 26, 2017 )

Brilliant Black Exterior Sales: 298 (one other report says 246)
Brilliant Black with Platinum Leather: 1
Brilliant Black with Anthracite Leather: 146
Brilliant Black with Ecru Leather: 60
Brilliant Black with unknown interior: 33

Casablanca White Exterior Sales: 11
Casablanca White with Anthracite Leather: 9
Casablanca White with Ecru Leather: 1
Casablanca White with unknown interior: 1

Cashmere Grey Mica Exterior Sales: 43
Cashmere Grey Mica with Platinum Leather: 5
Cashmere Grey Mica with Ecru Leather: 1
Cashmere Grey Mica with Anthracite Leather: 28
Cashmere Grey Mica with unknown interior: 9

Crystal Grey Mica Exterior Sales: 71
Crystal Grey Mica with Platinum Leather: 30
Crystal Grey Mica with Anthracite Leather: 41

Tornado Red Exterior Sales: 73
Tornado Red with Anthracite Leather: 47
Tornado Red with Ecru Leather: 24
Tornado Red with unknown interior: 2

Europa Blue Mica Exterior Sales: 34
Europa Blue Mica with Ecru Leather: 12
Europa Blue Mica with Platinum Leather: 12
Europa Blue Mica with Anthracite Leather: 1
Europa Blue Mica with unknown interior: 9

Pearl Effect White Exterior Sales: 39
Pearl Effect White with Anthracite Leather: 15
Pearl Effect White with unknown interior: 24

Pearl White Metallic Exterior Sales: 74
Pearl White Metallic with Ecru Leather: 35
Pearl White Metallic with Anthracite Leather: 39

Emerald Mica Metallic Exterior Sales: 221
Emerald Mica Metallic with Anthracite Leather: 31
Emerald Mica Metallic with Ecru Leather: 128
Emerald Mica Metallic with unknown interior: 62

Unknown Exterior Color: 63
Unknown with Anthracite Cloth: 1
Unknown with Platinum Leather: 29
Unknown with Anthracite Leather: 32
Unknown with Unknown: 1

Total U.S. Sales: 459 (per AoA on Sept. 1, 2017)  Data is obviously incomplete.
One other report shows 549 sold but majority have reported 459.

Tornado Red Exterior Sales: 24
Tornado Red with Anthracite Leather: 15
Tornado Red with Ecru Leather: 9

Pearl Effect White Exterior Sales: 32
Pearl Effect White with Anthracite Leather: 15
Pearl Effect White with Ecru Leather: 5
Pearl Effect White with Platinum Leather: 12
*Several conflicting reports for pearl sales figures. Some say 32 total sold, one other reports 15 sold. More data needed before we’d be comfortable declaring these as truly accurate.

Emerald Mica Exterior Sales: 115
Emerald Mica with Anthracite Leather: 19 (previously reported as 83 -likely incorrect)
Emerald Mica with Ecru Leather: 96 (96 estimated based on 19 Emerald/Anthracite. Previously reported as 32)

Cashmere Grey Mica Exterior Sales:
Cashmere Grey Mica with Anthracite Leather: 15
Cashmere Grey Mica with Ecru Leather:

Aluminum Silver Metallic Exterior Sales: 63
Aluminum Silver Metallic with Anthracite Leather: 32
Aluminum Silver Metallic with Platinum Leather: 29
Aluminum Silver Metallic with Ecru Leather: 2

Brilliant Black Exterior Sales: 114
Brilliant Black with Platinum Leather: 27
Brilliant Black with Black Leather:
Brilliant Black with Ecru Leather:

Europa Blue Mica Exterior Sales: 29
Europa Blue Mica with Ecru Leather:
Europa Blue Mica with Platinum Leather:
Europa Blue Mica with Anthracite Leather: 2

We Need Your Help!

As many of you know, for several months I have been digging for VINs for each color combination of UrS4 and UrS6 (and Avant) in the U.S. in order to get import numbers and data on each. So far I’ve had a very good connection at Audi (many thanks Katie!) that has been assisting me all along. I’m in the home stretch now and had sent my final email that would help fill in the blanks. On December 21st, 2017 I received the following response (see image) from someone named Jamie at Audi of America stating that they could no longer help me with this information.

How about that for a nice lump of coal from Audi of America just in time for Christmas? Apparently rather than me efficiently compiling a list of color combinations with VINs in one email they could just research and reply to they’d rather get hundreds of emails from individual owners asking the same thing over and over again. Fine. Let’s blow up their inbox with UrS4 and UrS6 production number requests and maybe they will “listen” to their long time enthusiasts.

If you own a U.S. model 1992 or 1995 (1995.5) Audi S4, S6, S6 Avant please help me out by sending the following info to Audi using the form below. Please remember to forward your response from Audi to us at editor@s-cars.org

Seeking Audi sales figures for my car

A Rare Find… 1985 UrQuattro You Can Own!

A Rare Find… 1985 UrQuattro You Can Own!

Offers no longer being accepted...

The owner of the car is currently reviewing all of the offers received and will be contacting the next potential owner in the next day or two. Thank you to everyone who made offers!

1985 Audi Quattro Turbo Coupes don’t exactly grow on trees these days. When I first saw this car at my friend Ed’s place in Colorado back in 2003 it was quite a find even back then. It was certainly no show car even then but it had solid bones as they say and ran and drove just fine. It seemed to need cosmetics more than anything else and I jokingly tried to convince Ed to sell it to me cheap so I could restore it. It only took him 14 years to decide to part with it and of course now I’m not in any position to take on a restoration.

Ed recently made a comment in another web site forum about selling the car and offers started coming in out of the woodwork in the ten to twelve-thousand dollar range with almost everyone trying to seal the deal quickly. This presented a bit of a dilemma for my friend as he wants the car to go to a good home that will bring it back to proper condition. He also doesn’t want to feel foolish for having sold it too cheaply. It’s a fine line with unique cars like this and his goal is to have no regrets knowing he got a fair price and it will go to a good home.

With that said, you’l notice a contact form on this page. Use this contact form to submit your inquiry and/or best offer for the car before July 28th, 2017. Ed will do his best to respond to emailed inquiries and I’ll post additional updates etc. on this page if he has more to add.

The following information has been submitted by the seller…

1985 WX graphite/black leather, 15×8 Ronal wheels, Kevlar/composite trunk lid.
Shows 88k miles but odometer is broken. If it wasn’t broken too long before I got it, then it’s got about 100k miles on it. I have a new 0-mile speedo in a box.
Timing belt, water pump, etc. done a couple years and less than 5k miles ago.
H4 headlights, no relay. I have a set of euro lights that are not installed.
Boost controller knob that tweaks the vacuum read by the ECU.
Someone welded in a small roll bar in the interior. It is only in the back seat.
Old style CGT steering wheel which looks like the original wheel in the 83 urq but without the “turbo” labelling. Stock steering wheel is like later CGT/4kq wheels.
Converted to K26 water-cooled turbo.
It has some sort of short shift kit that is very direct and nice.
I bought it in about 2002. It was in South Carolina where I had moved from in 1999. My mechanic found it semi-abandoned at a muffler shop. He bought it and got it running and called me. I got on a plane the next day to go pick it up and drive back to Colorado. Made the trip without issue. Was afraid to run the heater and I found that the heated seats worked.
A little while after returning to CO I had the AC system checked and it held a vacuum so I had it charged with R12 and that lasted a few years.
I have replaced the front control arms and strut inserts.
It has fairly new, very low mileage 225/50-15 tires.
Overall the condition is rough but complete.
The glass is all good, windshield not cracked/pitted, though not new.
Clearcoat is missing in many places with the graphite paint color worn of on the roof and a couple of other small places.
The front and rear air dam/under-bumpers have some cracks and evidence of a repair or two.
I believe there has been some body work on the passenger side.
It has hit something in the front passenger corner that tweaked things a bit, but the hood still closes.
There is a small amount of rust through in the battery box under the back seat.
Not aware of any other rust, but I haven’t gone looking. I have been under it and jacked it from all four jack points and haven’t seen any. The floors are good.
I installed a firewall clutch brace and new master and slave cylinders years ago.
I installed new front control arms and front struts.
Currently it has no power assist for brakes or steering because a little round freeze plug kind of thing popped out of the hydraulic system “block” that the pressure accumulator attaches to. I have bought a vacuum assist setup from a CGT but have not installed any of it. I have inflated the tires up to max cold pressure and it’s drivable.
Needs window regulators. I bought some new ones of the upgraded type, not Pimax, but when I went to install, I realized they must be for an earlier year of CGT/urq due to the mounting holes not quite lining up. I was going to start drilling but I again hesitated in deviating from stock.

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There you have it! After July 28th, this 1985 UrQuattro will be going to a new home. If it winds up being YOUR home we’d love to hear your plans for the car and follow the progress.

Submit your questions and offers to Ed before it is too late.

A Note Regarding Offers...

I had a conversation with my friend concerning the offer process and condition of the car. If you submit a offer and your offer is accepted you will be given the first chance to buy the car at the offer price. With that said, the seller will certainly allow you to have a pre-purchase inspection completed for your peace of mind and to ensure that the condition of the car is as represented in the photos and text. If, after inspection, you no longer wish to purchase the car the seller will allow you to bow out and contact will be made with the next buyer in line.

Upon completion of the offer term (July 28th) contact will be made with the potential buyer within 48 hours. The buyer then has 24 hours to respond to the seller (make contact) and arrangements can be made for an inspection at buyer’s expense if desired. If potential buyer does not respond to seller within 24 hours, the vehicle may be offered to the next person in line.

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Several mid 12k offers received at this point.

2014 Glacier Lakes Quattro Club Spring Ice Out Event

2014 Glacier Lakes Quattro Club Spring Ice Out Event

The weather finally decided to cooperate for us here in Minnesota granting us the first glimpse sunshine in a week. It also presented a fairly rare glimpse for us to bask in the shiny glory of a red Sport Quattro. Enjoy!